Interview with Jon Faine – ABC Melbourne – Tuesday, 15 September 2015

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RADIO INTERVIEW

ABC MELBOURNE WITH JON FAINE

TUESDAY, 15 SEPTEMBER 2015

 

SUBJECT: Liberal Leadership

JON FAINE: Jason Clare good morning to you.

JASON CLARE, SHADOW MINISTER FOR COMMUNICATIONS: Good morning Jon.

FAINE: So what’s your tactics in Question Time, you’ll put questions to Joe Hockey as Treasurer even though you now know that his own party has pretty much gone the other way.

CLARE: It’s called questions without notice Jon, so tune in at 2 o’clock, I’m sure it will be interesting and entertaining television.

FAINE: You’re not going to telegraph your punches on the radio this morning?

CLARE: No, no – funny that. We’ll leave it as a surprise at 2 o’clock.  

FAINE: Bill Shorten’s nightmare is the way I’m describing this.

CLARE: I think you’re wrong about that. Malcolm Turnbull has been the Leader of the Liberal Party before. We’ve beaten him before, and we’ll beat him again. Most people formed the judgment when Malcolm Turnbull was the leader of the Liberal Party that he was arrogant and out of touch and I don’t think it will take too long before people are reminded of that and form the same opinion now that he’s becoming Prime Minister.

FAINE: It could be wishful thinking on your part. It’s generally assumed and the polls support it that Malcolm Turnbullis a much more electable figure than Tony Abbott ever was. In fact Tony Abbott was your secret weapon.

CLARE: Here’s the problem he’s got. First he’s knifed a first term Prime Minister, we know how this movie goes.

FAINE: You wrote the script, you should.

CLARE: We’ve learnt the lesson the hard way. What happened? The Prime Minister got rolled, then the leaks happened, then there is an election and people throw a divided government out. We were punished for doing this and the Liberal Party attacked us at the time and now they’ve done exactly the same thing. The people of Australia aren’t stupid. They will react the same way. They will be just as angry as they were when this happened in the Labor Party.

FAINE: Or maybe not. The polls suggest that Malcolm Turnbull is the most popular politician, and much more popular than your parliamentary leader, Bill Shorten. 

CLARE: Being Prime Minister is more than just style. It’s about substance. Yesterday Malcolm Turnbull said he could fix this country just with a different style of leadership. I think that is absolutely wrong. The reason that Tony Abbott was so unpopular was not just because of the three word slogans. It was because all of the key indicators were going in the wrong direction in this country – unemployment up, debt and deficit up. For Malcolm Turnbull to assume that he can change everything by explaining things in a different way is just wrong and naïve.

I said earlier today that the Liberal Party last night changed from a second rate John Howard, to a second rate Andrew Peacock. This is not about style, it’s about substance. It’s about having the right plans for this country.

FAINE: Time will tell. I better get some more callers before the news headlines. Thank you indeed for your time this morning.

CLARE: Good on you Jon. Thanks very much.

ENDS

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